Paper patched bullets shooting ice

In the final chapter, he gives a quick summary of what works. Early rifling intended for paper patch ammo had very shallow rifling. On half the bullets, i installed a gas check, while the other half did without. I have never paper patched but i think i might with my 9. Velocities can be easily pushed over 3000 fps, and often you can get higher velocity with a paper patched bullet than you can with jacketed bullets. There is some question about whether the accuracy improvements result from the paper jackets or from the greater uniformity of shooting procedures by people with the patience to apply the patches. I find 8 thousandths deep works well for paper patched bullets, but is too iffy for cast bullets. Wright shoot em the way they were originally designed to be shot, with black powder and paper patch bullets. Sep 26, 2009 in shooter, the question was actually, how could a round fired from 1 weapon match a bullet from another, and paper patching was a process that could accomplish this. So it just bounces after hitting the ice and lands while its still spinning. Mass produced bullet molds are designed with very conservative, minimal dimensions north of the crimp groove, so that they will chamber in the great variety of firearms out there. Is the bullet of a gun traceable on the bullet itself or the casing. I simply dip them into melted beavergrease or similar so that the lube goes far enough up the projectile to cover the part that will be held by the case.

Chase patches have been more accurate than wrapped paper patched bullets for me. You can clearly see the paper patch leaves the barrel intact around the bullet at 00. So, no reason at all to do it if you like and are happy with copper jackets. Bullet diameter for 4570 paper patched cartridge shiloh. The myth busters demonstrated an almost horizontal bullet, while. Out of print loading and shooting traditional scheutzen rifles a beginners guide.

In fact i may be the only one in the world shooting paper patched bullets from a. Paper patches can be used to make slightly undersized bullets fit a gun with. Paper patched bullets ppb are probably the most controversial of all lead bullet styles. Working with lubricated bullets is messy in my experience.

Shooting a 90grain charge of goex ffg black powder and the crossstrip paperpatched pedersoli cast 478grain. To knurl or groove the bullets, just swing the handle down to bring the embossing wheel against the bullet, and turn the crank two or three turns while pressing with mild pressure on the padded handle. Buffalo hunters used this type of bullet to hunt millions of buffalos. May 17, 2016 i see no difference in which you choose. This last pic is of a 100yd five shot group from a 224 cal rifle. Shooting a 90grain charge of goex ffg black powder and the crossstrip paper patched pedersoli cast 478grain. The original paper patched bullets used a projectile that was smooth. The gun used is a gamo varmint hunter hp 1,400fps spring. Keeping cases as long as the chamber minimizes the rings.

A new approach to paperpatched bullets by ed wosika 20 as a dedicated cast bullet cb. How in the world would one go about preparing such ammunition today. I started using a complicated wad stack for a chicken bullet last year. New paper patch approach by ed wosika linkedin slideshare. A foam cup filled with soda and ice that is thrown from a car could pierce another cars windshield, but it wont.

The art of paper patching, how to make your paper patched. Years ago i did some of that paper patching for a 3006 spfld according to the harris developments. This video will show the basic 2 wrap patch boolit. Casting and reloading and shooting cast bullets is a lot of fun. It isnt the last word but it is an excellent primer. Muzzleloading info pine ridge black powder custom side. The bullets you have made can now be paper patched, or placed on the rollers of the corbin hct2 knurling tool, or the hct3 grooving tool. They shoot just as accurately as gas checked bullets for me, but i didnt push them. Shooting was done offhand ie, standing up, using custombuilt singleshot rifles aiming at targets 200 yards away with good shots achieving. However, in the movie, they mention the fact that the bullett match was metallurgical, not ballistic, using the signature straitions of a barrell. Paper patching actually wears a bore less than jacketed bullets. Why did they paper patch bullets in the movie shooter. Here are the benefits of shooting paperpatched bullets in your inline. For most of my shooting i favor the 9pound, particularly in.

Not only is this the best 100yard group i have shot with this rifle, shooting a traditionally styled bore. Loading and shooting schetzen rifles shooters record book. When shooting black powder it is best to keep the fouling moist so i lube my paper patched bullets. Paper patches let a shooter get the same velocities from lead bullets as with jacketed bullets. Mar 06, 2014 using a two stage sizing process to create cheap bullets to keep you shooting.

I have seen 2 types of conical bullets for muzzle loaders. Paperpatched bullets were merely the forerunners of modern jacketed bullets. Here are the benefits of shooting paper patched bullets in your inline. But its the steep chamber step that actually cuts the ring. In his march 1977 article paper patched bullets come of age, harrison provides a few rules for the shooter using a paper patch to obtain top velocities with poured slugs. As far as the taper of the patch shoot what ever you want. I answer those questions a thousand times a week and i never get tired of it. But to save you a lot of time on the phone, ive written most of those answers here. Demystify the paper patch enigma with a simple stepbystep approach to reloading using off the shelf components. Refining paperpatched loads for smokeless powder load data. Nei lee rcbs saeco and lyman ideal, are companies im familiar with to whatever degree. Myself, i prefer paper patched bullets for three reasons. My hunting loads using swaged paper patch bullets are as follows.

Lots of advantages, especially compared to grease groove bullets. You can also watch as the paper patch comes off the bullet between the muzzle at 00. Been shooting them a while but just now got around to chronographing some of your 350gr. The advantages are that you will need no sizing or lubricating. And even paper patched some bullets for my 375 hh improved to shoot deer with. I plan on working on some cast bullets for that gun.

When i am shooting paper patch bullets regularly i do not clean the wax out at all. Light for the caliber bullets will work in fast twist barrels but we dont say. Ive used paper patched bullets with certain success in the. Much discussion and cussin have been laid at their doorstep. Casting, patching and loading their paper patch bullets in the hunting field. There is one fellow who shoots yds with his black powser 45 cal rifle and puts them all in the the black. The guy was right, you can size those paper patched bullets down. I have never heard of anyone using a paper patched conical bullet in a muzzle loader. Paper patched or lubricated lead bullets can be swaged in two basic styles, the swc shoulder style shown here, and the smooth ogive style shown below. The first shot of each magazine is guaranteed to be an ice bullet. Most shooters, given quality ppbs and proper loading techniques. Or perhaps just stops in the ice and remains spinning. I lube all of my patches using lee case sizing lubricant. No leading at all and the bore was very clean after many of them.

With a slightly tongueincheek writing style, i demystify the paper patching enigma with a simple, stepbystep approach to reloading using offtheself components for shooting todays. Patching is the hand process of applying paper jackets. Im aware that many molds are available to cast bullets for paper patching. Paper patched bullets, swaged vs cast shiloh rifle forums. Patched bullet have a lower friction and thus a reduced pressure, allowing a little more powder before reaching maximum pressure.

And i use a tapered bullet that i find not as accurate as the straight wall bullet that measures patched. Get yourself a copy of paul matthews book the paper jacket. A small number of dedicated target shooters still load paper patched bullets at velocities up to about 2,000 feet per second 610 ms. Im aware that many molds are available to cast bullets for paperpatching. Dont try to bump up a cast bullet as you would a paper patched bullet. Paper patch bullets were once the most popular type of bullets in the 1800s. A beginners guide to loading and shooting paper patched bullets for early black powder cartridge rifles. Never tried breech seating chase patches in the ballard because the throat is not tapered. The megamite is especially useful for large bore calibers from.

Thats been a long road to arrive to paper patching bullets for future yard target shooting with a muzzle loading rifle. Rating thread thread starter, last post, replies, views. What confused me is the different positions shown in each video. Cast or swaged lead bullets with paper jackets are potentially cheaper than copper jacketed bullets, require no gcs like higher velocity cast do, and allow you to tailor bullet fit to nearly. I shoot paper patch bullets in smokeless cartridges exclusively. Refining paperpatched loads for smokeless powder load. Ive shot chase patches in my muzzle loaders and my 4050 ballard. I also did it about 15yrs ago with a 1895 that had the microgroove rifling. Sizing paperpatched bullets for smokeless powder load. The bear was hole up in a perma frost spruce thicket that was so think you. The paper acts like a jacket and keeps the lead from smearing in the bore.

Paperpatching your inline muzzleloader western powders. After hammering out the bullet, i tried moistening the bullets with felix lube, and sizing was easy after that. Best accuracy is usually accomplished with a much closer. Complicated wad stacks might be good for fouling control when shooting dirty, for making reduced loads, or some other special reasons, but they are not needed for top drawer accuracy with paper patched bullets and zero leading.

Grease groove bullets have been the most accurate type so far. A small number of dedicated target shooters still load paperpatched bullets at velocities up to about 2,000 feet per second 610 ms. If you want to shoot a cast bullet in a muzzleloader you need a barrel cut 12 thousandths deep. An assassin can fire an ice bullet to kill someone without leaving a trace. Using a two stage sizing process to create cheap bullets to keep you shooting. It has been my experience, however, that most of the cussin has been from folks with little or no personal experience with ppbs. Most shooters, given quality ppbs and proper loading techniques, are delighted to give them a try. We describe another method to economically and simply custom fit the bullet to your rifle bore to make your military surplus rifle shoot. Can you swage hard lead, make partitioned bullets, make your own jackets, make plain lead bullets or paper patched slugs. The most important thing about shooting lead bullets is fit and that includes paper patch. Most sources cite cases that are too short as being the cause of paper rings, which is partly true. Oct 14, 2016 paper patches let a shooter get the same velocities from lead bullets as with jacketed bullets. Theres not a whole lot of folks shooting paper patched bullets so its difficult to compare notes with someone else. In the final chapter, he gives a quick summary of what works best for him with what he calls a practical paper.

Loading and shooting paper patched bullets a beginners guide. Paper patched bullets were merely the forerunners of modern jacketed bullets. While holding either gun in a room with enemies, paper lanterns periodically spawn, which. Patched bullet have a lower friction and thus a reduced pressure, allowing a little. So paper patch boolits not supposed to lead up barrels eh.

Original percussion long range rifle with paper patched bullets. The book is intended for shooters experienced in reloading black powder cartridge rifles that are ready to try their hand at shooting paper patched bullets. However it did not address trouble shooting the many problems that pop up, to any degree. Sizing paperpatched bullets for smokeless powder load data. However, i do load and shoot black powder bp charged paper patched bullets ppbs exclusively for my sharps falling block and remington rolling block replica bpcr rifles. A paper patch bullet will do anything a grease groove bullet can do, and then some. A defibrillator will not make a nitroglycerin chest patch explode. Paper patched bullets a blast from the past sporting shooters. Jul 02, 2009 the only paper patched bullets for black powder i am familiar with are those used in black powder cartridge rifles like a sharps 1874. Too much sizing will hurt accuracy as will too much paper. Cast or swaged lead bullets with paper jackets are potentially cheaper than copper jacketed bullets, require no gcs like higher velocity cast do.

Paper patched bullet discussion graybeard outdoors. When you have a clean rag and time to wipe your hands between shots they work fine. Harrison published his findings in the american rifleman and the nras compilation tome. Its possible to push a patched bullet faster than a jacketed bullet given the same weight and cartridge. I use a lyman mdie to condition the necks and flare the case mouth. His delightfully informative book on the subject, the paper jacket, is perhaps the best resource for a reloader interested in utilizing paperpatched bullets with smokeless powder. These molds are designed to fit lee six cavity handles. The cba is a international organization of shooters who enjoy casting and shooting lead alloy bullets for competition, hunting, experimenting, and casual shooting. If youre a diehard paperpatched bullet shooter, youre undoubtedly familiar with paul matthews. I also did some hunting rifle paper patching very successfully with my 358 win see other 35 cal thread. I have extensive experience nearly 30 years in cast bullet rifle shooting and think the paper patched bullets may be the way to go. The only paper patched bullets for black powder i am familiar with are those used in black powder cartridge rifles like a sharps 1874. For those who are interested in full power with cast bullets in such calibers as.